But also there would be no need to. shelved 11,906 times Showing 30 distinct works. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. But more important than that, what evidence does Gardiner provide for such a plan, or even the existence of seacocks on Titanic? So if indeed it was part of some pre-arranged 'rescue' it completely failed in its purpose. This is because, of course, as an insurance scam everything was a set up and rescue ships were in the area waiting for the sinking. of the surviving crew. and impacted on the larger open spaces dictated by a ship aiming for luxury, instead of being a watertight battleship. They Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. As if somehow to counteract this fact, it has then been alleged that 'Titanic's insurance was increased by J. P. Morgan from $5 million to $12.5 million 5 days before her fateful journey'. One must also suggest - if those behind the 'switch' were so clever so as to be able to switch absolutely everything aboard Olympic/Titanic as to include the numbers 400/401 etched onto the back of wooden panels in all the state rooms (refer to point here) then how is it they would And to finally put it to rest we have a photograph of Captain Smith on Titanic's bridge on sailing day - and the wheelhouse is clearly flat behind him. Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. 3rd-class: 2,250. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the We asked them the height of the berg and some said one hundred feet, others, sixty feet; one of the onlookers a motor engineer travelling to America with a model Estimated at over $160 million today, this is more than they could ever have recovered if they had sold or scrapped her. bivalve shell layers 2020-11-29 23:19 . 1 were never lit at all. During this process workers allegedly discovered the name Olympic 'carved into the gunwhales,' as 'the old name had been filled with putty and painted over.' (courtesy Steve Hall), According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, "the two additional portholes on Olympic were added about March 1912 during her short stay in Belfast and before the maiden voyage of Titanic. If not, it is a moot point. Toggle navigation. from a Sky TV show entitled "Conspiracies", presented byDanny Wallace. Auden, with whom he developed an intermittent friendship and to whose poems his own were later stylistically likened. Patrick Fenton, who lived in Australia regularly told people that when he had worked as a seaman on the Titanic, he had witnessed an explosion on the ship which had caused it to sink, rather than the collision with the iceberg. Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. About James Fenton. Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations and would never get a job when they got out. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. 19344. In July 2013 he wrote to Alexandra Bruce of ForbiddenKnowledgeTV (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com) the following: I have just been made aware that you are broadcasting a film under the heading "Was the Titanic Deliberately Sunk by J P Morgan" (original title "Why They Sank Titanic") on your Forbidden Knowledge TV Internet TV channel. full speed. Author Steve Hall: "The problem with that doco is it's 13 years old Of course it's Titanic.". They were only just entering the icefield. Secondly, to propose that the Carpathia was involved in some pre-arranged rescue mission requires evidence - for which there is zero documentation or testimony. 2. About This Item. the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." 2nd-class: 200 between eighty and ninety feet.". They were mostly Belfast men - i.e. They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. how in just four and one-half days the Titanic reached the position where she sank if she was never able to travel at more than 12 knots! Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking, 30. Olympic's wheelhouse in 1912 was curved at the front (left diagram) while Titanic's was straight. However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. But there is a very simple and logical reason that does not necessitate a conspiracy. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. - Able Bodied Seaman Thomas Jones testified before the US Inquiry (Day 7), that he went on deck and could see some ice. ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. The boats were left until December 1912 in New York. 'The Olympic Room' This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. ", The evolution of Titanic's port side portholes -from May 1911 when she was launched with 14, to April 1912 when she had 16. When or where did he ever say he discovered this? B-deck window spacing on the wreck Claim: Dr Robert Ballard has admitted that when he discovered the wreck of the Titanic he found evidence it was actually the Olympic. The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. Fenton developed an early interest in poetry and at 17 traveled to Austria to visit W.H. Presenter Danny Wallace says: "This is a cracking conspiracy theory and all too tempting to believe were it not for the mass of evidence against it so it seems Titanic and Olympic never were switched, there never was an insurance scam." Steve Hall's answer was actually responding to this question: "Does the wreck provide absolute proof it's not Olympic?" This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the The swap was purely to keep the company in business. Survivor Lawrence Beesley wrote about men in the smoking room sighting the iceberg in his book, "The Loss of the SS Titanic": "One of them had seen through the windows an iceberg go by towering above the decks. The longer they were at sea, the more money it cost. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. It is obvious that a rather large dose of imagination has been used to see the alleged 'damage'. Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. This particular picture was a fake and I have an email from the producer of the film confirming this. Titanic's sea trials were shorter than Olympic's Titanic's bulkheads were intentionally deficient Claim: Historians have always mused that it was rather strange that Titanic was never shown the enormous publicity that Olympic received the year before. The ships that were launched were not launched in a finished state. They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. Hence post-Titanic-sinking images of Olympic also have this 16 porthole configuration. To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. name on it. Claim: Numerous ships were stationed nearby, despite a coal strike, to take off the passengers, which is why the shortage of lifeboats would not matter. There are other photographs of Titanic with similar liberties such as the shot of her in Cherbourg at night which has been heavily doctored to look as if it was taken at night with her lights blazing. The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. Both had the same configuration of portholes in March 1912. Claim: While Olympic was open for inspection by the press and public in both Belfast and Southampton, Titanic was not open for any inspection at all, except to The Board of Trade inspection. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge investigated this account in their book Titanic had a "slight, but permanent, list to port" as observed by Lawrence Beesley and "several other surviving passengers.". There is not one occasion in which he There is of course some mystery over what really happened to Titanic's lifeboats after the disaster. And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? However this claim goes with the assumption that the White Star Line was suffering financially. 48. I can see no credible evidence of discolouration that would be proof positive of repair work, especially in the specific location where the Hawke penetrated Olympic's hull. In fact footage of this is used in his 1997 blockbuster film "Titanic" and with some creative license he actually places the fictional character of Caledon Hockley in this suite. 877-CALL NJH (877.225.5654) COVID-19 Care | About Us | Patient Portal | Careers| Professionals | 877-CALL NJH . While there were costs involved in repairing the damage in the Olympic/Hawke collision, and that the Olympic was out of service meant lost revenue, the fact is that as a business the White Star Line was not going bankrupt and there simply was no need for a 'switch'. We need to know which accounts precisely are being referred to here. There is no record of anyone doing so. However he conveniently does not explain Where rust and marine life have flaked the top layers of paint from the hull of the wreck discovered by Dr Ballard patches of what appear to be white paint are exposed. The documentary itself, although spending the first 40 minutes promoting the 'switch' conspiracy, actually ends up concluding in the final five minutes that it did not happen. According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." We also know that a crew member took First officer Murdoch's wife Ada on a tour of the ship, when she visited. What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. Olympic had 16 bow portholes. In this close up of the post-disaster image of Olympic, And as for both Lord and Smith sleeping "full clothed" that is pure speculation, and has little relevance anyway. Claim: More than fifty first class passengers cancelled at the last minute, many of them friends and business associates of JP Morgan, and Morgan himself (who had money tied up in the White Star Line) also cancelled claiming that he was ill. Morgan was found two days later by a reporter in good health at a French resort with his mistress. This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. A man named James A. Fenton who was a construction worker for the construction of the Titanic said they were switched. Further volumes of poetry included Out of Danger (1994), which won the Whitbread Book Award (now the Costa Book Award); Selected Poems (2006), a Penguin anthology of his work; and Yellow Tulips: Poems 19682011 (2012), an even broader survey containing previously uncollected verse. Titanic 's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing 2. [American Inquiry, Day 7] There is no mention that he jumped in from B Deck. Titanic did not strike an iceberg - Fourth Officer Boxhall "a little ice in the well deck covering a space of about three or four feet from the bulwarks right along the well deck, small stuff. (British Enquiry,Day 13) 1. Those travelling east bound logically did not depart from England, and so were relatively unaffected by the coal strike. The wind blows through his silver hair. It began in January of 1912 Also a sealed design would have restricted access to certain parts of the ship There are a couple of important points to first realise. that the damaged Olympic had a broken keel and could not make half speed during the sea trials. Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. Claim: Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller. In fact what evidence suggests there could possibly be ice on Titanic's rigging? But this is not due to it being the Olympic. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. 42. her full speed if the weather cooperated. Some have analysed the footage concluding for example that the X-shaped viewing field seen in the video is caused by the camera rig's lighting. Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. Please refer to the appropriate style manual or other sources if you have any questions. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). 10. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. First and foremost there is no documented evidence to verify it. More tellingly, this does not look like repair work - considering that this was supposed to have been completely repaired and seaworthy. The ship had never been at keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity Lack of testimony. the Hawke collision that would supposedly justify a 'switch' scenario. Despite the overwhelming evidence and logic as presented in the previous page, 'switch' proponents will often raise a seemingly large number of questions, doubts, alleged inconsistencies and supposed evidence that has led some to believe the 'switch' is not only possible, but a reality. Some go as far as to state that 'Lloyd's paid out $12,500,000'. It is, however, agreed that crew returning to England were under instructions to give evidence at the Board of Trade Inquiry and not to talk to the media beforehand. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. And if you compare actual photographs of Titanic's starboard side to images of the wreck you will see it matches completely: A direct comparison reveals that the B-deck windows on Titanic and wreck match precisely, revealing the 'meme' to be false. their attention to it, and they all watched it disappear, but had then at once resumed 3. Also, a coal bunker fire was indeed burning on Titanic, although it was put out before the collision and in any case as it is not explosive would not have caused the damage described (more information here). Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. Importantly it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. Our editors will review what youve submitted and determine whether to revise the article. Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. The claim does not align with Ballard's writing on the matter. Olympic was damaged badly enough to force the voyage to be cancelled. The stern wreck image is in fact compiled from thousands of high-resolution images shot during a multi-million dollar, two-month expedition that took place in August and September 2010. It must also be noted that many of Olympic's westbound crossings had an average speed of 21 and a half. then they absolutely need more than this very doubtful photograph to prove that Olympic's "doubler" is not overlapping and hence it is actually Titanic. In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. 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