1 They Could DECIDE Genesis 3:2-3. 9 And JEHO. But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.". God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). 00:00. can you show me when i can get the ideas? Thanks for taking the time to read the blog post and for your kind words. Adam and Eve as well as other people born during the no-sin era. Who is this that would kill him? Because Adam and Eve had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Lord sent them out of the Garden of Eden into the world. Here is just one example about working the land 26:1 make no idols. I dont find your suggestion to be plausible. But thats not at all what is going on here. #1 Eve "saw" that the tree was good for food. Ed, As I mentioned near the end of the post, I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. (Genesis 3:8). You read that correctly, the Bible never states that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. 30? I dont recall what prompted it, but I do remember searching for the phrase, God walked with Adam in the cool of the day. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. No one is perfect, but when you are walking with God your desire should be to see your own selfish desires die for the sake of seeing God transform you more and more into the image of His Son: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. Genesis 2:8 (NKJV). Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. They had bone and flesh before they sinned, before they recognized their nakedness. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. Daniel, It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. That would be really cool. What do you think?? It means closeness, intimacy, communion. Hi Tom, Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. This would have been after God made Eve and Adam awoke and uttered the words in Genesis 2:23. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. Our hearts were reformed for this exact purpose. So is this one (post-Fall) verse sufficient to establish that God was in the habit of visiting with Adam and Eve in the Garden? Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. Sin Of Walking. Genesis 3:2-5. But, like other things, there is truly not a single word to directly support the notion that Adam walked with God in the cool of the day. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). Sincerely, Keep up the good work brother, the TRUTH shall be the only thing that sets us free. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. But there is so much more to the story. Tim. Because at this time there are only three people left from the list. Thanks for the kind words. Genesis 3:8. Hello Tim. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? God speaks, asking Adam where he is. Have you ever wondered exactly how the conversation between God and Adam went down in the Garden of Eden? God loved to come and take a walk in the garden in the evenings when the shadows were cool, and the flowers smelled sweet, and when all the animals came out to play. Not once. Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. Well, Jesus wasn't there with Adam and Eve in the beginning. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. Because we are made in Gods image, we are called to image God. Adam and Eve, according to the Old Testament, are the First Humans who ever walked on earth from which all humans descended. My post is not arguing against the idea that Adam and Eve had some sort of relationship with the Lord prior to the Fall. Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. Thank you and God bless you! God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. If He was walking, then this must have been a theophany - a pre-incarnate appearance of the Second Person of the Trinity. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). Thanks for your focus on this and for sharing the fruits of your consideration of the passage. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? (Gen. 3:8) Adam is placed in the garden to "cultivate (abad)" and "keep (samar)" it (Gen 2:15). I happened on this post because the thought came to my mind that God only walked with Adam, not EveI do not know why I had the thought, and I had not checked Gods Holy Word on the issue, but I read your article which partly validated my thought in an unexpected way. We must know that Eve and Adam's life in the Garden of Eden was beyond happy. But the most beautiful thing of all was that they walked with GOD. Following Gods words to the T is one of the reasons why the law was fulfilled by Jesus and not by man. #1. 10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden. Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? It says, coats of skin. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. If youre interested, heres the link: https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/ They walked and talked with God. I just think that Adam and Eve would have needed alot of one on one guidance from God, in person, that of which they couldnt have possibly received by remote control. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. Never stop, word will not go void! So, heres one guy that wont repeat this again. Thats the one where I spend time talking about the ages of Cain and Abel. Required fields are marked *. Also, Adam didnt necessarily say that he heard Gods voice (some Bibles translate it that way), but it could just as accurately be translated as your sound in the garden. Why dont Adam and Eve know that God is with them at all times? These include appearances to Abraham, Hagar, Moses, Joshua (Joshua 5:13), Gideon (Judges 5:12), and the wife of Manoah (Judges 13:3). Because they nearly always cite the verse about Adam and Eve hearing the sound of the Lord walking in the garden. Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. What if they were some sort of Spiritual Being as God and his Son were at the time. Apparently, you have missed the point of this entire post. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Hi Kevin, They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of . constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). He could have spoken out of a whirlwind to them and banished them from the Garden in that form. Sorry for the delayed response. You cant see that Leviticus expounds on how to walk with god? Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! And then. So if they were in the garden for a month, how many times (if ever) did they walk with God? (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. Adam and Eve Hide From God. Yes, I see that there are similarities, and I dont deny the possibility that God was present in the garden in a special way compared to the way that He is omnipresent. they heard him rebuke them. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? They hide among the trees. the Word of God walked in Eden. First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. Adam and Eve. Adam understood what God meant when he was given instructions because God made him with the ability to understand those things. It would literally have been paradise just to walk with Jesus in the . Hi Mel, Later after the fall of man, mankind lost the ability to see God physically save through the theophany. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. Considering that each year subtracted from Cain and Abels ages at the time of Abels murder could be added to Adam and Eves time in the Garden, its quite possible that Adam and Eve spent many years in the Garden, which would make their sin all that more sorrowful. No human can view the full reality of God and . And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve. Both Adam and Eve, and all humans today, were made in God's image (Genesis 1:26-27; 5:1). Hi Ian, September 13, 2019. Maybe their nakedness was not exposed genitalia, but realized they were naked in some other maner. Hi Sam, I believe when the Bible states they heard the Lord in the cool of the day I think its a spiritual voice. To your third point (in the next post), I think the temple imagery is overdone a bit in modern times. I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. The unborn child, the mentally handicapped, the elderly, and even our worst enemiesall are made in the image of God. Walking with God means you are in agreement with Him and His ways ( Amos 3:3 ). If you eat from the tree in the middle of the garden, you will die!". They probably werent in the garden for very long at allperhaps just a few days to a few weeks. Hi Jeff, Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. That is, Enoch and Noah lived faithful lives. The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. Haha very eye opening. . I was putting together a Bible lesson today for my twin girls on the Fall of Man. Furthermore, nothing in John 1 states that Jesus walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. Adam and Eve surely knew that the punishment for rebellion was deathand even if they didnt understand the fullness of that word, they knew it wasnt good. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. never seen what GOD actually looks like. However, most people inevitably mention them walking in the cool of the day, so they arent thinking of it in the figurative sense. Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. First, we are told that God made man from the dust of the ground, and he didnt become a living being until God breathed the breath of life into him (Genesis 2:7). 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and . Thanks for your comments. No the bible didnt directly say they walked with God. Or a young stag on the mountains of Bether.". It was perfectalmost. But then you had already stated this was possible. Sincerely, It bothers me that I have believed the Bible stated this, and that I have told other people it says this for so long, and I have read the first three chapters of Genesis so many times. It is a special, peaceful garden oasis God created as a home for Adam and Eve (and maybe also Lilith) where their two jobs were to give animals names . Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. The only mention of walking in that part of Scripture is while Adam and Eve are hiding from God in the garden. Lets consider this for a moment? If the voice of God walking in the garden caused them to run and hide because of disobedience, sin, judgement. Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! Here are 6 things that you need to know, insights that will help you in your life today, in helping to refine the way you view God. The problem with this scenario is that Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long. Song of Solomon 2:17. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. This concept is very helpful and it incorporates all of the othersintelligence, communication, worship, dominion, an eternal soul. As I mentioned in the post, even if He walked through the Garden to speak to Adam and Eve it would not prove that they used to take walks with Him. However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. Adam blamed the woman, the . #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. Since they were both born in Genesis 4 (after the expulsion from the Garden), they didnt necessarily have to be 120+ by the year Seth was born. Yes, Im aware that the KJV translates the term as voice. But look closely, notice that it never says they walked with the voice of God. It is also the case that Adam and Eve had been commanded by God to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth" (Genesis 1:28). One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. I can see that cool of the day can be also be breath, spirit, or wind. He gives them clothes in Verse 21 because the evil deed, of eating from . Im not really sure how your comment addresses Eds point at all or anything in the article. It would be far better to use a supporting argument that has a strong biblical basis. It seems so trivial. We did not know, nor trained ourselves to do that and now see our own child in the consequences. Hello! Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. It is not an issue of molester in the same room with a kid. I am searching for ideas about the absence of God in the Garden. And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. However, the walk in these passages should probably be understood in a figurative sense. The sound of movement. How cool would that be! So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. So again, lets not be naive to think that God didnt spend time with them! The first consequence of Adam and Eve's momentous decision to reject God's revelation was a . Maybe He was physically there throughoutthe short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). One good example is Leviticus 26:12 AND I WILL WALK AMONG YOU AND BE YOUR GOD. . Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. This is what most people have in mind when they speak of the Lord walking with Adam and Eve. ? For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. And they heard the sound of the Lord God, walking in the garden. However, God did come physically to Abraham and ate. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. by Erik Jones. Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, You walked with us every day. In terms of the theological questions of how God could do this, one answer could be that it is an embodied pre-incarnate Christ, the Angel of the Lord, who is himself the Lord and who appears many times in the Old Testament. Then ended up here. Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. 3:8). I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. Adam and Eve loved to . This is why Christians generally believe that all human life is precious. Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. In a similar way, we are told in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16). Im not sure you have dealt sufficiently with the argument that God must have walked with Adam and Eve in the garden previously for Adam and Eve to know that they sound they heard was God. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. The reasoning for this conclusion may make more sense in the next post on Cain and Abel. Sam. No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! Genesis 3:8, CSB: Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and they hid from the Lord God . But its entirely different to claim that the Bible teaches or implies that they did when there just arent any statements in the text that teach or imply that position. So it seems there would have been little or no point for God to have EVER been in their presence in the manner that this idea assumes: actually relating to them in the ordinary manner in which one human normally would relate to one or more other humans. when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. However, most people inevitably mention . There isnt a verse like this about Adam and/or Eve. So I will get rid of the statement being discussed here. Notice that I said that I would argue that they are probably made in His image. I didnt claim that there was a clear cut and dry case that is beyond dispute. My argument wouldnt focus on the things you mentioned. Tim. This month we will look at Bible texts from Genesis to Revelation to reflect on what it means to walk with God. It seems from Scripture that they lived on manna exclusively. IMV they were walking in the IMAGE for which God created them with the FREE WILL to CHOOSE. Thank you for your thoughts I do understand the whirlwind , but Gen says God made them clothes from an animal to replace mans attempt of covering his nakedness. Randy Alcorn (@randyalcorn) is the author of over sixtybooks and the founder and director of Eternal Perspective Ministries. If strong wind is a better translation, then it would not be saying that God was walking in the garden, but instated that He was moving in the garden. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. They had all they could ever want. But it would be nice for you or someone else to show me where the Bible ever makes that claim. God Was Angry. " (John 1:18) . God's presence is also noted by . They are intelligent, rational creatures, capable of communicating and worshiping God. (Vs. 21) Did the wind drive them out of the garden? Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. the Bible states that the man (species) was driven out of the Garden of Eden. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Did Adam and Eve Walk with God in the Garden? But its an irrelevant point. As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. The same two words are translated elsewhere . It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. There are several possibilities, such as siblings, nephews, and nieces. I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. It is possible that God literally walked in the Garden of Eden in the form of a human. 21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins Genesis 2:19 Thank you Michael. However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. These were things i highly cherished. Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. God bless you. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. Hi Robert, Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. There are some who says He came in angelic forms throughout the Bible yes He did but thats through another likeness. The Tree-of-Life was in the middle of the garden, also the Tree-of-Knowledge-of-Good-and-Evil. Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . 2. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. But what does it really matter, what appears to have happened here (according to some of the responses) is that golden calves have been kicked over and religion has taken a bump on the shins. I am simply trying to point people back to Scripture as Ive done in many other posts in my Misused Verses series. Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. 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