I want to thank Pete too for advocating for women participating fully in leadership and for Libby modeling what it means to be a true helper (ezer kenegdo). So a young person in our high school ministry. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. Like so many of you, I love Pete. I dont know. So thank you. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Okay. Well, I want to turn our discussion to what youve experienced at your own church, which is a multi-site mega church there in the Dallas Fort Worth area, because those are things where youve been able to apply some of these lessons that youve learned from watching the negative example maybe of Willow Creek, youve learned an awful lot from going through crisis at your own church. :), I would strongly urge you to research Voice of the Martyrs. Thank God I have Jesus. But I guess this is the question so many are asking is, Can anybody be in those kind of jobs with the kind of responsibility that is put on one human, one person to lead thousands of people? And so many looking to him for vision for leadership for everything. Nobody who is an elder at a church should have any aspect of their identity wrapped up in either the role of being an elder or in the success or failure of the organization. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. etc. In fact, back in the late 80s, early 90s, we went to Willow Creek and we had a wonderful experience. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. And thats one of the things that I just come back to is that the word hypocrisy in the Greek the word that comes from that means actor. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. And which really makes me sad because theyve had a change in leadership. I think thats dangerous. It grows on the vanilla orchid, and it only grows in really exotic places like Tahiti, and there are some places in Mexico it grows too, but what is unique about the vanilla orchid is when it blooms, its got to be pollinated within one day. I did live it. That to me, is a corruption of the role. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? And its not something you can control like traditional mainstream media. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Later Telling the Truth began airing in several countries in southeast Asia and across 10 countries in southern Africa. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. Its my understanding that was a watershed moment. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray I learned that from Bill. At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. And if you think its not, you know, go and look in your church building right now, if youre quarantined under COVID, or youre not gathering. Let me give you some examples. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. I totally agree with you Julie on how I viewed the Clergy and Church growing up. He gave me a few new friends here and there, people to pray with, to share with, to be coworkers in some small ministry, etc. And presented them with the information, he essentially tossed it to the side and said, So what?, No consequences. With distinctly different teaching styles, you'll be moved by the emotional appeal of Jill and the compelling logic of Stuart, as they boldly proclaim God's sovereignty, grace, and love. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. Well, and that is one aspect of the story that I wanted to explore together because I know that what happened at Willow from my understanding of speaking with Vonda and several victims is that it was far worse, the abuse there and far more pervasive than most people know, and thats one of the frustrations I know of a lot of the victims is that Willow hasnt publicly acknowledged that or publicly said how bad it was. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. Hes also the chairman of the elder board and his own church, Bent Tree Fellowship. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe Pete has offered to For that we are forever grateful. At that age, I had never had someone in spiritual authority lie or manipulate me. Pete Briscoes father, Stuart Briscoe, who I loved dearly, hes not in good health, I wish he was, I wish he could hear this and Id wish him well. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. And he came back and said, I cant do this anymore.. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Jill So since youve seen a lot of this kind of up close and personal through talking to witnesses and elders and staff people, how bad was the abuse at Willow Creek? And I realized that as we were discussing this, that there might be some people who have heard about what happened at Willow Creek, but somewhat superficially, through the headlines and dont really know beneath the surface. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. But it really had the tone has to be set by leadership for a culture of goodness. It is not a program is not a set of services. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. And you made the statement that if you have the character to lead, you dont need a manual. Briscoe And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. And its so important, I think, for any of us who are doing any kind of ministry at all, if we get our identity wrapped up in what were doing, then what were doing is no longer ministry, its no longer service to the Lord. And that was how Bill deformed his accountability structure. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. I encourage leaders to research their selection criteria carefully before they recruit for their next vacancies. Its a serious analog for what happened at Willow. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. I hear you say that and I believe in accountability really strongly. But so far, I havent seen that. Through Petes teaching on Sundays and through various conversations with other staff members during the week, God shifted my perspective on what it means to live life in Christ one from my own efforts to please God to one of Christs efforts on my behalf to love me deeply, extravagantly, and permanently. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Yeah, thats right. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. But heres what happened when Scot criticized them publicly. Everything started to make sense. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. But you lose the guarding mechanism, which I think in todays in todays cultural moment, its probably the most important aspect of eldering. It is simply to feed ourselves. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. They have a responsibility to the larger church to speak. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. But theres a sense that the Church of Jesus Christ Universal is represented all throughout not just the United States but the world. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Oh Well, and I appreciate your service to the church. And I do think theres a spiritual stronghold, I hope and pray that it will be broken in our area. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. Fellowship, Church family, Community. What makes you stick with that model and believe it can still be used despite how badly that model has been abused? It is a collection of people. Also, major problems. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. Hybels at one point had a major conflict with a woman who was serving on the elder board, who was trying to hold him accountable and essentially used a reconciliation process involving some other big names in evangelicalism to essentially run her off, put her under an NDA. Think about the psychology of someone who could be doing what was alleged by Pat Baranowski to have been done to her. So I was quite taken aback when this scandal came out. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. I attended Willow for seven years. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Powerful ministry at some points. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. Petes leadership at Bent Tree casts a long shadow with a legacy that will endure. A person whos not walking in the Spirit is susceptible to that type of behavior, even a senior pastor. One of those women is Vonda Dyer. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. That way, youll never miss an episode. And I remember you saying. Because I often wonder what would have happened if he had come back and you know, not been well are not been really able to do his job but said, You know what, Ive got to do this. This is the you know, erither, I need the job, or, This ministry completes me. or whatever, whatever the excuse is. Okay. And he committed sex acts with her. This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. Thank you so much. Frankly I find church to be excruciatingly lonely. Or what is the church think about Calvinism? something along those lines. And Hybels said, essentially, Yeah, well, well do it that way. And Clinton showed up and then didnt comply with anything that the board had said. Multiple services, being able to do it on cue, proves Hybels theatrical abilitiesI look back and feel sick, given all the details we now know from behind the scenes. Briscoe Theyre not holding anybody accountable then. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. At the same time. So he said something about so and sos clothing. Well, to answer your question, very bad. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Its about serving God. Its not okay. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. Thankyou in advance. They didnt have the ability to move quickly. And where does whats legally expedient for our organization? Amen. In context, I think my meaning becomes clear as I say soon after, agreeing with Mitchs assessment that unanimity is bad: Absolutely horrible. You know, I believe in spiritual strongholds and things like that. And I was sitting in my office one day and Vonda picked up the phone and gave me a call and kind of told me what was coming down the pike in terms of the Chicago Tribune article that basically lit the fuse on that entire situation at Willow. But other than that, you know, there just werent a lot of people in the larger church speaking and there had to have been a lot of church leaders who knew about what was going on and knew that there were problems with Bill Hybels. I do. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. Yeah, without using any names. I cant vouch for all the information because I havent researched it myself. https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, Also, Id encourage you to read the website below. I cant do this authentically anymore. And as hard as the last year and a half has been, I applaud him for that. Im against too many lawyers, and I think Im in a position to critique this. To view their entire showroom online. And I could explain why I think thats funny, but you have to have extreme accountability, the larger your platform gets. The radio program began to attract listeners and supporters, enabling the ministry to expand its broadcasting to a growing number of stations throughout the United States and abroad. But what happens when there is a sheep within the flock who needs to be defended? Hes one of the good guys. Boy, and if more churches did that, how much pain and heartache among the sheep would have been spared? 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